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	<title>All The Young (edu)Punks &#187; frames</title>
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		<title>D2L Going Frameless</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon K.</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pursuant to my previous post about D2L, apparently in the near future they're going to break out of their frames. Yay for accessibility! Of course, this is according to the Twitterverse, but they're getting their information from the Fusion conference. That is all.<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://www.robotvsrobot.com/2009/07/15/d2l-going-frameless/' addthis:title='D2L Going Frameless '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pursuant to my previous post about D2L, apparently in the near future they're going to break out of their frames. Yay for accessibility! Of course, this is according to the Twitterverse, but they're getting their information from the Fusion conference. That is all.</p>
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		<title>Crap.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon K.</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm, I suppose I'll look back at this moment in a few months with a hearty guffaw, and muse "Oh Jon, there's such a simple solution." These are truly "first world problems" if I've ever heard them. Oh yeah, Barry Dahl's video is incredibly useful, except it doesn't actually show how he embeds the wiki [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://www.robotvsrobot.com/2009/07/09/crap/' addthis:title='Crap. '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I suppose I'll look back at this moment in a few months with a hearty guffaw, and muse "Oh Jon, there's such a simple solution." These are truly "first world problems" if I've ever heard them. Oh yeah, <a href="http://blip.tv/file/875787" target="_blank">Barry Dahl's video is incredibly useful</a>, except it doesn't actually show how he embeds the wiki in D2L - it basically shows you how to embed stuff in a wiki which is embedded in D2L. Close to what I need. Yes, I've e-mailed to see if Barry can help sort out my muddled mind, but venting never hurts.</p>
<p>EDIT: After a brief phone call, he's still baffled, I'm ready to tear my moustache out.</p>
<p>I've been trying to embed a <a href="http://www.mediawiki.org" target="_blank">MediaWiki</a> in my proposed <a href="http://www.desire2learn.com">D2L</a> version of my Searching The Internet Effectively course. I'd like to constrict the opening of this page to remain in the frameset that D2L exists in so students can pop back and forth between the content that's in the course, and the wiki to add their own content. Every method of embedding I've tried opens the wiki in a new page. I'm beginning to wonder if the damn thing is set to automatically open in a new page.... or maybe Firefox is overriding some weird thing. First of all framesets?? Give me a break. If framesets get deprecated anytime soon (as they should) D2L is in for a major redesign. Talk about a total head-scratcher.</p>
<p>Also, I hate IE. I thought when I got out of web design as a career that I could learn to <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">like</span>, <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">accept</span>, ok not hate IE. Wrong. IE is crap. IE 8 is <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">OK</span> passable, except that when you use  the TinyMCE editor in D2L in an IE browser (IE 8 included), it strips out co-ordinates of an image map. And other attributes of the object tag. WTF??</p>
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